Baz Warne - Pt4

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 Pt 1 -Intro | Pt 2 - Early Days | Pt 3 - Norfolk Coast | Pt5 -Hugh, Paul & Odds & Sods

"While you’ve got to harness what's great and institutional about the Stranglers you've got to remember its 2006; a new band, a new era and we need to develop and I think we’ve accomplished it."
Baz Warne 2006
Ah yes 'Suite XV!'. Two years in the making. When I spoke to JJ September last year they were taking their time and had just finished 'Summat'. There's no doubt that this album is an improvement on 'Norfolk Coast' both lyrically and sonically. There's something for everyone here from the shouty punkiness of 'Summat', to the classic Stranglers style single of 'Spectre', to the breathy lushness of 'Anything Can Happen', the bloody-mindedness of 'Unbroken' and to me the highlight of the album 'Relentless' which follows such distinguished predecessors as 'The Raven', 'Toiler' and even 'Hanging Around'. This track will become a live classic for the band. Fantastic lyrics and tune and sung with real soul.

The band has moved on and is developing and has struck gold with Baz Warne energising the song writing between him and JJ. Providing EMI don't balls up the promotion this album will eclipse 'Norfolk Coast' and put the Stranglers right where they belong which is in the premiership of top British bands. They deserve some recognition.

1. Unbroken
2. The Spectre Of Love
3. She’s Slipping Away
4. Summat Outanowt
5. Anything Can Happen
6. See Me Coming
7. Bless You ( Save You, Spare You, Damn You )
8. A Soldier’s Diary
9. Barbara ( Shangri – La )
10. I Hate You
11. Relentless

The writing of the album...
We hired a house in the Cornish coast in Looe and me and JJ lived there for 6 weeks. We probably wrote a dozen songs each and ten between us and obviously you’re gonna chuck a load of things away.  What you have to realise is that when you work in a creative situation like that everything is put in place for you. We took a load of recording gear, guitars, we were well fed and had a lovely house. Its there so if you feel the muse at 3 in the morning you can get up, holla into the mike with an acoustic for twenty minutes and then reappraise it the next day. If you don’t do that you might just miss a real gem and there's been a few things where I’ve sifted back over the course of time and found. I w as the mini disc librarian and I've got hours and hours of us rehearsing, farting around, telling jokes, singing and pissing about. If you don’t do that then after imbibing all substances you would forget something after 5 minutes so I would document everything. When you write the sheer bulk of songs like that there’s bound to be some shit and there was. 30% of it was crap.

How much of Suite XV1 was written in Looe?
'Unbroken' was done pretty much down there. Bits of 'Spectre' was a riff that was around.

Those tracks sound angry and discordant – was that the vibe?
It seemed to be. 'Summat' was written at Looe. Pretty much all of it in 3 days bar the middle eight. JJ had the bass line, the riff I thought of straightaway and the lyrics were done there.

'Suite VXI 'took 2 years to do. We formulated a framework for the time it would take. I think the success of 'Norfolk Coast' dictated how quickly this album would come out. Not since their heyday have the stranglers brought out two albums in such quick succession. 2 years between. I don’t remember any pressure from EMI. They were interested in whether we had started demoing yet. This is an old fashioned band. We write the songs, we demo them then we take them home and take them apart and we still work very much as a band. Pressure – honestly? Only as much pressure as you make for yourself.

Less pressure more anticipation and excitement because I knew we now had something to live up to. I knew there was better songs in us. There’s pressure when you’re doing it. I though 'Norfolk Coast' was accepted and critically acclaimed. I thought no matter what we do we’re not going to make a record that’s any worse than that. There’s different sorts of maxims to adopt. It might sound conceited but I just knew we could make a better album. Because we had the fire in our bellies. Me and JJ are very close and spend a lot of time together particularly now we are the singers and doing the interviews. We became fast mates during the 8 months we spent at the farm and the pair of us were very buoyed by 'Norfolk Coast success'. There’s a few fragments of songs that had been around since 'Norfolk Coast' and for no particular reason hadn’t made the final cut.

You know that people are going to buy this and listen to this so you owe it to yourself and them to make it the best you can. Everything I’m saying is a fucking cliché’ but that’s the way it is!

 

The Songs....

Unbroken. JJ does verses and bridge. I sing chorus.

The Spectre Of Love. Its about my kid. I haven't spoken to her for 18 months for various reasons and its difficult. A personal thing. Its got commercial tough stranglers sound. It’s a really good song."

Punk77 ..if you had bollocks you’d release 'Summat Outanowt' (laughs)
Baz. Lets see how the first one does. You need to appeal to the broader cross section of the general public.

She’s Slipping Away. This was partially written during the 'Norfolk Coast' sessions. I read in the paper about a bloke who came home from the pub, had an argument with his girlfriend smacked her and she’d fallen and banged her head. He thought she was dead so he took her outside and buried her in the garden but she came round. Me and Paul Roberts wrote the lyrics to the song. It had an entirely different vocal melody which we binned and we made it a little bit more commercial. This and 'Spectre' was seen very early on as prime candidates for singles though there’s loads on there to choose.

Anything Can Happen. Paul recorded 9 vocals and we had to go and replace those. Its got a salsa/samba feel and that’s Paul playing Congas and marimbas, co wrote some bits of pieces and he’s credited on the album.  

See Me Coming. JJ wrote that. He did the soundtrack for an animated Jap TV series "Gankutsuou" in 2004. Amazing cutting edge animation. I’ve seen bits of it and its incredible. He wrote some things for it and I played quite a lot of guitar on the soundtrack. Its a futuristic version of the Count of Monte Christo and Edmond is the main character in there who gets locked away and comes out and exacts his revenge. We kind of thought it had a kind of heavy hip hop vibe almost. Dave shone through on this. Plenty of quirk. More details here about the soundtrack.

Bless You ( Save You, Spare You, Damn You). It’s the big production number on the album and whether we will be able to reproduce it live I don’t know. I wrote it with that kind of vibe. There was an amazing drum pattern that Jet was doing and I thought we could use it. I wrote it 2 years ago. Its an acoustic start and we were aiming for a Tudor minuet in the middle. I was adamant that female backing vocals would work so we got Lucy to try them and it sounded great. Lucy was the girl that worked in the letting  office that let us the house in Looe and who was in a duo with her husband. She was a singer songwriter who played acoustic guitar. At the end  you’ve got blues ...Gary Moore moment (laughs)...you don’t expect it on a Stranglers album!

A Soldier’s Diary. Its about a bloke who’s lost his legs and soldiers waiting to go over the top in Pascendale. I read a thing about old Tommies in the first world war and how when they went back afterwards they found old letters and diaries in the trenches and it was harrowing. I wanted to write about it but I didn’t want to make it maudlin. I think I’m right in saying It’s the fastest song that the stranglers ever recorded.

We like to juxtapose really dark subject matter with accessible melodies. We try to make things a little more obtuse and its up to people get their noses in and root about to find out about the songs

I Hate You. We had a lot of fun doing it. Again its a really dark subject. He (JJ) clearly doesn’t like somebody. It’s a song we had a couple of stabs doing different versions of and then JJ said how about a bit of a Johnny Cash thing and as soon as he said it it all just fell into place, A lot of people really like it.

When we were putting the running order together which is important especially for cds you want to pace it. You want light and shade. It does come down slightly in the middle but then that’s the way of most things. A couple of surprises towards the end and then put relentless on at the end a really long surfy style track.

Relentless. I didn’t want that song to be too heavy. We could have seriously rocked out and made it much more thrashy but I wanted it to be a bit more restrained. A lot of these songs were written for Paul Robert’s voice in his key. I did have the idea of shifting it up a tone so I could sing it easier but I realised the first verse has to be really deep and almost spoken. Whoever writes the song normally sings it. That’s not always the case though. 'Relentless' was the last song to be written. Its about the passage of time. I’ve had personally a bit of a rollercoaster 2 years in the midst of all of this its been a bit tumultuous. I wanted a way to express it. It can be really really heartbreaking but things are inevitable and you can’t stop them and you know that they are gonna come. The King Canute reference is the broader verse so that people would be in no doubt about what I was talking about.

 Pt 1 -Intro | Pt 2 - Early Days | Pt 3 - Norfolk Coast | Pt5 -Hugh, Paul & Odds & Sods

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