Don Letts - Pt2
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Don exudes an atmosphere of sharp intelligence: an alert flexible thinker, seemingly very relaxed and at peace with himself. He knows where he has been, what he has achieved, and he is comfortable with himself, that much is clear. He maintains a busy work load, currently reworking and remixing rare dubs with Dan Donovan from the vaults of Kingston's dub plate masters, Bunny Lee and King Tubby (the latter was brutally murdered in a senseless killing, the gunman as yet not brought to justice), working on interviews and a film about the NY and Detroit garage punk scene of the mid to late 70's, ["I don't think that story has been told properly yet: Richard Hell, Television, I want to get their story down on film, record them and their memories and contribution fully, as they deserve"] plus running his own sound system, The Dub Cartel Sound System. Don breaks off from talking for awhile to pay attention to his daughter, who looks about a year old. She sits and surveys the situation, wide eyed and with some bemused concentration, not uttering a sound. Barely able to contain his energy levels, Don jumps from topic to topic enthusiastically.

Don 'rebel dread' Letts at The Roxy

It's a lovely afternoon, so Don suggests we take a walk down to his local park…on the way we discuss avant-garde jazz, seriously left field music (Pharaoh Sanders, African Head Charge, Keith Hudson, early Public Image music) obscure dub releases of the last 25 years, old friends of his from the London scene… …he tells me his life is increasingly divided between two halves, his busy life connected with his sound system, film, remixing projects, writing projects, and a more introspective life, working in his garden….a lot of people who have such a busy workload, and such an intense past might be a little weary, burned out, affected by it all, but it doesn't seem to be true of Don Letts….the over all impression of this man is a man who knows a lot, has experienced a lot, has created a lot of works , created environments, literally: If you need proof, check out any pictures of him playing out his heavyweight dubs to the audience of The Roxy in the late 70's, or pictures of him in Acme Attractions with Jeannette Lee (now of Rough Trade).
Don Letts has bridged cultural gaps, but has still retained a strong calm, inner balance and sense of who he is, and his destiny; where he is going… This has in no way though, eclipsed what seems to be his innate sense of the irreverent, (he tells me that he has always been known as "the Rebel Dread" ("I'm the guy that was kicked out of The Twelve Tribes of Israel for burning the chalice with Ari Upp from The Slits", he explains) the man seeking out new forms, and new modes of expression. After all, he did arise form the punk scene of the late 70's, and one look at a picture of him walking down a litter/ bottle/ missile strewn street headed straight to a wall of Notting Hill police, tells you that this is a man who has walked it as he talked it, a man of conviction and integrity. This is Don Letts! Not many people can get away with saying the following in completely unpretentious, unassuming tones without coming across as utterly arrogant and presumptuous:

Don Letts & Arri Up (Stevenson)

DL: Notting Hill , this whole area, you know, its like my office. I walk around here, and always meet someone I know with a new project, work out some good deal for a place to hold a sound system dance or some other business.

Don Letts can get away with it, and he does. And he has a history and credentials to prove it, to back it up, which began in earnest around 1974/5… He tells me that in the mid 70's, he was just a young black man from Brixton, heavily in to funk, the JB's, Sly and The Family Stone. Ideologically, the Black Panthers, Huey Newton ("Revolutionary Suicide"), Assata Shakur, Eldridge Cleaver ("Soul on Ice"), George Jackson ("Blood in My Eye" and "Soledad Brother"), Bobby Seale ("Seize the Time") were moulding influences for him, but somehow, the African American Black Panthers perspective and solutions were not enough for the young Don Letts…
 


DL: My parents' generation had come over on the Windrush, and they had made their lives acceptable through so much struggle, toeing the line, knuckling under, but for us, that just wasn't going to work. It was too obvious we were getting the short end of the stick: you had to see it as it really was, and I identified pretty quickly, that the way we blacks were being treated within the school system was fundamentally wrong. I couldn't accept what I was being told: As a black man, they would say to me "Go join the GPO, or work on the London Underground ". Obviously, I wanted more…

So, how did you progress from being an earnest Black Panther sympathiser and funk fanatic, to rubbing shoulders with anarchists and Situationists, (The Sex Pistols, Vivienne Westwood, Mclaren and all the others)?

DL: I was a Brixton boy, born and bred. As a young Black man at that time, I loved funk, I had an Afro, Italian L'Uomo Vogue fashions… What you have to realise is, that the blueprint for Black people in Britain pre-Rasta, was funk and soul… Ok, the music was good, and the political stances of a small number of the artists were commendable, but I have to tell you, so many aspects of that scene as grafted onto an emerging black culture in England were real BULLSHIT! It was bullshit because it involved emulation of another culture, emulation of another host nation, whilst we as young black men should have been revelling in our differences, our qualities which were distinctly ours! So that's what Rasta and punk did for us, it freed us up! We didn't have to fall for the same "cultural emulation" roles which our parents had succumbed to, which appeared to us as a form of cultural repression and castration.

So, besides the weighted school system, how did he perceive the source of the confusion, and how did he deal with it?

DL: I got totally into the Black Panthers, Huey Newton with his work "Revolutionary Suicide", and then there was George Jackson, with that book of real power, "Soledad Brother", and "Blood in my Eye". Those were powerful books for a guy like me, because we were truly seeking. I can't emphasise that strongly enough

And you didn't find what you were looking for in the Panther ideology?

DL: No. Look, it all seems so easy now, the very word just rolls off your tongue, "Black British", but for awhile back there, it wasn't so simple you know? Fundamentally the Black British and the Black American experience was different, right from source. Black Americans were dragged, screaming and kicking, from the shores of Africa to an utterly hostile America, whilst my parents, they bought a ticket on the "The Windrush" bound for London! So, right off, you have it there, a major fundamental difference. So even though I attended the Black Panther meetings, proudly wearing my Angela Davis badge, read "Soul on Ice", there was still so much more that we needed to do. It's true that we became aware, became conscious in many respects and that was partly due to those Panther ideologies, but the total relevance of that movement just didn't translate into the Black British experience.

So how did you reconcile yourself to growing up in a very European culture? Did you experience any strong conflicts?

DL: Well, I've already outlined some of the conflicts we experienced as Black British youth. One thing is for sure, I wasn't going to join the GPO, you understand? Also, there were new cultural exchanges going on among the black and white youth in London! I was hearing really freaky music like Captain Beefheart and Beatles tunes, and you know what, I loved that stuff, it wasn't like "Oh that's white man's shit!" I was being turned on by an alien culture, and essentially, this ongoing cultural exchange is what has inspired and informed me ever since. So out of this bad situation, good things were growing and it was a melting pot of influences going on! At the same time, all the hippest white guys were into checking out the latest funk clubs!

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